Caption: Andrew Westoll
Andrew Westoll 

Conversations 102: Andrew Westoll

From: Richard Fidler
Series: Conversations with Richard Fidler
Length: 53:26

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A conversation with Andrew Westoll, who worked in a sanctuary for 'retired' chimpanzees: former pets, circus animals or subjects for medical research. Read the full description.

Andrew_westoll_small Andrew Westoll is a writer and a former primatologist.

He worked for a while in a sanctuary for chimpanzees in Canada; this was a kind of retirement home for chimps that had once been kept as pets or used as circus animals or as subjects for medical research experiments.

Andrew watched these chimps recover from the trauma of their earlier lives, and he was astonished when some scientists came visiting, looking for forgiveness from their former subjects.

He also saw what happened when some of the chimps managed to escape their quarters and invade the human spaces in the sanctuary.

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Piece Description

Andrew Westoll is a writer and a former primatologist.

He worked for a while in a sanctuary for chimpanzees in Canada; this was a kind of retirement home for chimps that had once been kept as pets or used as circus animals or as subjects for medical research experiments.

Andrew watched these chimps recover from the trauma of their earlier lives, and he was astonished when some scientists came visiting, looking for forgiveness from their former subjects.

He also saw what happened when some of the chimps managed to escape their quarters and invade the human spaces in the sanctuary.

Broadcast History

Originally broadcast on ABC Radio, Australia (re-edited here for a US audience).

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Intro and Outro

INTRO:

Right now: 'Conversations with Richard Fidler' (pron: FY-dler) features Andrew Westoll and his year with a group of chimpanzees, who had 'retired' from a life as subjects for medical experimentation.

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Musical Works

Title Artist Album Label Year Length
Shadows of Ourselves Thievery Corporation Mirror Conspiracy. Eighteenth Street 2000 01:00
Hollywood Sunset Barry Adamson Lost Highway. Fontana Interscope 1997 :59

Related Website

www.abc.net.au/conversations