Joe Carnahan and Frank Grillo are the perfect example of the sort of male bonding that occurs when guys go through an experience that is both dangerous and exhilarating. After making THE GREY in a remote region of British Columbia, they've got a bantering rapport and a palpable mutual respect. When I spoke with them on January 9, 2012, I started the conversation asking about the primal fears that the film evokes before moving on to the way the story brought out the primal instincts in Grillo. Before wrapping up with a promise from Carnahan to include Grillo in his next film, KILLING PABLO. they pair discussed the pleasures and perils of making a mid-budget film, why Jason Bateman deserves a two-minute Oscar(tm), and a new way of thinking of a happy ending.

Joe Carnahan and Frank Grillo are the perfect example of the sort of male bonding that occurs when guys go through an experience that is both dangerous and exhilarating. After making THE GREY in a remote region of British Columbia, they've got a bantering rapport and a palpable mutual respect. When I spoke with them on January 9, 2012, I started the conversation asking about the primal fears that the film evokes before moving on to the way the story brought out the primal instincts in Grillo. Before wrapping up with a promise from Carnahan to include Grillo in his next film, KILLING PABLO. they pair discussed the pleasures and perils of making a mid-budget film, why Jason Bateman deserves a two-minute Oscar(tm), and a new way of thinking of a happy ending.