Although this conversation references (briefly) a Veteran's Day ceremony to take place on the 11th in Missoula, Montana, the content is universal.

Mulligan-Dague talks about her bewilderment after reading (in high school) about a group of young people who committed suicide to protest the Vietnam War. How, she asks, does violence -- even against oneself -- help, or solve anything.

Gallagher describes the hurt he felt when he returned from Vietnam and saw "pure hatred" in the eyes of a young woman who was protesting the war while holding a sign that read "Baby Killers."

Some quotes from the program:

Mulligan-Dague:
"The commandment that 'Thou shalt not kill' was part of what shaped my anti-war views. It wasn't 'Thou shalt not kill unless it's justified, or unless it's here or there,' that was simply it."

"We need to get to the place where the causes we have -- whether it's war, peace, whatever -- are not as important as the caring that we feel for each other."

Gallagher:
"The idea of military service was an extremely important value that I grew up with, so it was rather natural when Vietnam came along that I was going to join the service to serve my country -- I saw that as a noble thing."

"A lot of veterans feel that they can't be proud of being a veteran and be a peace advocate or oppose any given war -- that they have to be one or the other."

Although this conversation references (briefly) a Veteran's Day ceremony to take place on the 11th in Missoula, Montana, the content is universal.

Mulligan-Dague talks about her bewilderment after reading (in high school) about a group of young people who committed suicide to protest the Vietnam War. How, she asks, does violence -- even against oneself -- help, or solve anything.

Gallagher describes the hurt he felt when he returned from Vietnam and saw "pure hatred" in the eyes of a young woman who was protesting the war while holding a sign that read "Baby Killers."

Some quotes from the program:

Mulligan-Dague:
"The commandment that 'Thou shalt not kill' was part of what shaped my anti-war views. It wasn't 'Thou shalt not kill unless it's justified, or unless it's here or there,' that was simply it."

"We need to get to the place where the causes we have -- whether it's war, peace, whatever -- are not as important as the caring that we feel for each other."

Gallagher:
"The idea of military service was an extremely important value that I grew up with, so it was rather natural when Vietnam came along that I was going to join the service to serve my country -- I saw that as a noble thing."

"A lot of veterans feel that they can't be proud of being a veteran and be a peace advocate or oppose any given war -- that they have to be one or the other."