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Ever drop a reference that just makes you sound old? Are you using outdated slang? Changes in pop culture and lax speech are always marking the generational gap, from the sitcom characters we love to the way we say something's cool.
The "Doogie Howser" scene in the movie 50/50 is a perfect example.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/mv-dtg3j/doogie_howser/
What's the difference between done and finished? If you've completed something, are you done? Or are you finished? Grant and Martha contend that there's no historical evidence to suggest a difference between the two, although finished is slightly more formal.
Why are main courses called entrees in the US? Why isn't the entree the first course of a meal? In 19th Century Britain, the entree came after a course of soup or fish, but before the main portion of the meal, such as a boar's head. Over time, the main course converged into one course, but the name entree stuck.
If it's ten of five, what time is it? Is it the same as ten till five? Why, yes it is! Ten of five, or ten till five, are both appropriate ways to say 4:50.
Grant and Martha share some more terms that make a person sound old-fashioned these days. Ever get a blank stare when you mention the icebox?
Our Quiz Guy John Chaneski has a zombiefied puzzle called Dead Reckoning. What's the problem with putting zombies in the legislature? A deadlocked government!
How do you pronounce garage? Does it rhyme with "barrage," or do you say it like the British so it rhymes with "carriage"? The variations abound, and they all work, so long as we know what you're talking about.
There's a rule for the pronunciation of the word the. If it's followed by a word whose first letter is a vowel, sticklers say it should be pronounced like "thee," as in, thee end. If followed by a consonant, it rhymes with "duh," as in the dog. That's thuh long and thuh short of it.
Some outdated words wind up coming back in cheeky and ironic ways. For example, kids these days likely know groovy from Austin Powers, not from the flower children.
It's a common superstition: do not split a pole. That is, if two people are walking down the street, they shouldn't each walk around a different side of a lamppost, telephone pole, or mailbox. But if they do, there's a remedy: just say bread and butter! There's an old Merrie Melodies cartoon of panthers doing that (at minute 5:42).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uow_6qbssCc
And of course, there's a Facebook page devoted to keeping poles whole.
http://on.fb.me/pkMcmy
There's a story going around about a 19th Century priest named Giuseppe Mezzofanti who claimed to speak forty to fifty languages. Hyperpolyglots, or those who speak six or more languages fluently, offer some key insights into learnings language. Michael Erard chronicles all this in his linguistic cliffhanger, Babel No More: The Search for Extraordinary Language Learners.
http://bit.ly/lz1FOk
Is there a term for the way words feel when they're spoken that has nothing to do with their meaning? The word suitcase feels nice to say, unlike rural. Cellar door certainly has a different quality than moist ointment. Mouthfeel is an oft-noted concept. But in his book Alphabet Juice, Roy Blount Jr. says of his favorite term to enunciate: polyurethane foam. His reason? "It's just so sayable."
http://www.waywordradio.org/a-conversation-with-roy-blount-jr/
Depending on what generation you're from, "Get your rubbers!" could mean put on your galoshes. Or it could mean something else!
Did we ever pronounce the "k" sound in the words knot or know? The now-silent k underwent apheresis, from Greek meaning "to take off." In olden days, the word knight also had an initial-k sound, and a "kin-not" was the thing you tie. But nowadays, as Blount would say, the k in knot is silent, "like the p in swimming."
At one time, a boner was a mistake. And now, it's--you know. Beware of that outdated usage, grownups!
Do our toes have names? Mother Goose and Scandinavian nursery rhymes gave us variants of Tom Pumpkin, Long Larkin, Betty Pringle, Johnny Jingle, and Little Dick. Sounds cooler than big toe, no?
http://bit.ly/o3JieG
What dessert would you serve a baseball player? Why, a bundt cake, of course!
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Piece Description
Ever drop a reference that just makes you sound old? Are you using outdated slang? Changes in pop culture and lax speech are always marking the generational gap, from the sitcom characters we love to the way we say something's cool.
The "Doogie Howser" scene in the movie 50/50 is a perfect example.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/mv-dtg3j/doogie_howser/
What's the difference between done and finished? If you've completed something, are you done? Or are you finished? Grant and Martha contend that there's no historical evidence to suggest a difference between the two, although finished is slightly more formal.
Why are main courses called entrees in the US? Why isn't the entree the first course of a meal? In 19th Century Britain, the entree came after a course of soup or fish, but before the main portion of the meal, such as a boar's head. Over time, the main course converged into one course, but the name entree stuck.
If it's ten of five, what time is it? Is it the same as ten till five? Why, yes it is! Ten of five, or ten till five, are both appropriate ways to say 4:50.
Grant and Martha share some more terms that make a person sound old-fashioned these days. Ever get a blank stare when you mention the icebox?
Our Quiz Guy John Chaneski has a zombiefied puzzle called Dead Reckoning. What's the problem with putting zombies in the legislature? A deadlocked government!
How do you pronounce garage? Does it rhyme with "barrage," or do you say it like the British so it rhymes with "carriage"? The variations abound, and they all work, so long as we know what you're talking about.
There's a rule for the pronunciation of the word the. If it's followed by a word whose first letter is a vowel, sticklers say it should be pronounced like "thee," as in, thee end. If followed by a consonant, it rhymes with "duh," as in the dog. That's thuh long and thuh short of it.
Some outdated words wind up coming back in cheeky and ironic ways. For example, kids these days likely know groovy from Austin Powers, not from the flower children.
It's a common superstition: do not split a pole. That is, if two people are walking down the street, they shouldn't each walk around a different side of a lamppost, telephone pole, or mailbox. But if they do, there's a remedy: just say bread and butter! There's an old Merrie Melodies cartoon of panthers doing that (at minute 5:42).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uow_6qbssCc
And of course, there's a Facebook page devoted to keeping poles whole.
http://on.fb.me/pkMcmy
There's a story going around about a 19th Century priest named Giuseppe Mezzofanti who claimed to speak forty to fifty languages. Hyperpolyglots, or those who speak six or more languages fluently, offer some key insights into learnings language. Michael Erard chronicles all this in his linguistic cliffhanger, Babel No More: The Search for Extraordinary Language Learners.
http://bit.ly/lz1FOk
Is there a term for the way words feel when they're spoken that has nothing to do with their meaning? The word suitcase feels nice to say, unlike rural. Cellar door certainly has a different quality than moist ointment. Mouthfeel is an oft-noted concept. But in his book Alphabet Juice, Roy Blount Jr. says of his favorite term to enunciate: polyurethane foam. His reason? "It's just so sayable."
http://www.waywordradio.org/a-conversation-with-roy-blount-jr/
Depending on what generation you're from, "Get your rubbers!" could mean put on your galoshes. Or it could mean something else!
Did we ever pronounce the "k" sound in the words knot or know? The now-silent k underwent apheresis, from Greek meaning "to take off." In olden days, the word knight also had an initial-k sound, and a "kin-not" was the thing you tie. But nowadays, as Blount would say, the k in knot is silent, "like the p in swimming."
At one time, a boner was a mistake. And now, it's--you know. Beware of that outdated usage, grownups!
Do our toes have names? Mother Goose and Scandinavian nursery rhymes gave us variants of Tom Pumpkin, Long Larkin, Betty Pringle, Johnny Jingle, and Little Dick. Sounds cooler than big toe, no?
http://bit.ly/o3JieG
What dessert would you serve a baseball player? Why, a bundt cake, of course!
Broadcast History
For broadcast starting Friday, October 28, 2011. This episode has not previously aired.
Transcript
Ever drop a reference that just makes you sound old? Are you using outdated slang? Changes in pop culture and lax speech are always marking the generational gap, from the sitcom characters we love to the way we say something's cool.
The "Doogie Howser" scene in the movie 50/50 is a perfect example.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/mv-dtg3j/doogie_howser/
What's the difference between done and finished? If you've completed something, are you done? Or are you finished? Grant and Martha contend that there's no historical evidence to suggest a difference between the two, although finished is slightly more formal.
Why are main courses called entrees in the US? Why isn't the entree the first course of a meal? In 19th Century Britain, the entree came after a course of soup or fish, but before the main portion of the meal, such as a boar's head. Over time, the main course converged into one c...
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Timing and Cues
The show clock:
Billboard: 1:00
Segment 1: 13:00
Music Bed: 1:00
Segment 2: 19:00
Music Bed: 1:00
Segment 3: 19:00
TRT: 54:00
Stations typically take NPR news at the top of the hour and start our show at :06 with Breaks at :19 and :39 and out at :59.
Here's a typical episode rundown:
--Billboard
--Seg 1
----Intro: 2-3 minutes
----Caller questions: 10-11 minutes
--Break 1:00
--Seg 2
----Word Challenge 4-6 minutes
----Caller questions 13-15 minutes
--Break 1:00
--Seg 3
----Slang Quiz 5-7 minutes
----Caller questions 11-13 minutes
----Credits: 1:00
Intro and Outro
INTRO:This week on "A Way with Words": Ever drop a cultural reference that just makes you sound, well, of a certain age? Grant and Martha discuss slang that's often lost on a younger or older generation. Plus, the right way to pronounce the word spelled "t-h-e," a remedy for the superstition of "splitting the pole," the difference between "finished" and "done," and a special word quiz for all you zombie fans!
OUTRO:Musical Works
| Title | Artist | Album | Label | Year | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Funky Fever | Joe Thomas | Feelin's From Within. | Groove Merchant | 00:18 | |
| A Place in Space | Joe Thomas | Here I Come. | Lester Radio Corporation | 00:13 | |
| Polarizer | Joe Thomas | Feelin's From Within. | Groove Merchant | 00:09 | |
| Dig On It | Jimmy McGriff | Soul Sugar. | Capitol Records | 01:00 | |
| NT | Kool and The Gang | The Best of Kool and the Gang (1969-1976). | Mercury | 01:00 | |
| Base Line | Syd Dale | Cinemaphonic 2: Soul Punch. | Motel Records | 00:18 | |
| Do I Have To Boogaloo? | The Double Dozen Orchestra | Dance Date. | Amphonic Music Ltd. | 00:17 | |
| London Life | The Syd Dale Orchestra | London Life. | Amphonic Music Ltd. | 00:16 | |
| Let's Call The Whole Thing Off | Ella Fitzgerald | Ella Fitzgerald Sings the George & Ira Gershwin Song Book. | UMG Recordings | 00:54 |
Additional Files
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Additional Credits
Hosted by Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett. Produced by Stefanie Levine. Engineered and edited by Tim Felten. Production assistance by James Ramsay and Josette Herdell. Recorded at Studio West in Rancho Bernardo, California. Independently produced and distributed by Wayword Inc., a California company, to public radio stations across North America.





