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Outlaw Pt 1

Series: Drift Chamber Series 4
From: Steve Hersch
Length: 00:57:06

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Default-piece-image-1 To be broadcast Spring 2004 on KSER FM Interview with outlaw, Clyde. Has always worked at the fringes of the American economy as well as several foreign ones as Avon guy, pimp, Burmese tour guide (took tourists to visit rebels), etc. Playlist: High Flyin' Bird, Richie Havens Help Me Make it through the Night, Kris Kristofferson No Man Can Find the War, Tim Buckley Meet Me with Your Black Drawers on, Jeannie & Jimmy Cheatham Fixin' to Die Rag, Country Joe & the Fish Babylon Is Fallin' down, Dan Smith Shake 'Em on down, R. L. Burnside The Captain, Leonard Cohen Take This Waltz, Leonard Cohen

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To be broadcast Spring 2004 on KSER FM Interview with outlaw, Clyde. Has always worked at the fringes of the American economy as well as several foreign ones as Avon guy, pimp, Burmese tour guide (took tourists to visit rebels), etc. Playlist: High Flyin' Bird, Richie Havens Help Me Make it through the Night, Kris Kristofferson No Man Can Find the War, Tim Buckley Meet Me with Your Black Drawers on, Jeannie & Jimmy Cheatham Fixin' to Die Rag, Country Joe & the Fish Babylon Is Fallin' down, Dan Smith Shake 'Em on down, R. L. Burnside The Captain, Leonard Cohen Take This Waltz, Leonard Cohen

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Review of Outlaw Pt 1

It's hard to understand what the focus of this program is and how it's meant to engage the listener.

From the description of the program here on PRX, we're told that the program is an interview with a man named Clyde, who has lived on the fringe of society since the 1960s. However, it would be hard to gather that from listening to the program. Outside of one isolated mention four minutes into the program (and another three minutes before we hear the interview), Clyde isn't introduced. If the listener doesn't catch that brief mention in minute three, you are left clueless about who this man is and why he's being interviewed--for the rest of the hour.

The program tries to tie music into the story by drawing contextual connections from the music to the interview, as well as highlighting inspirational bonds between the 60s era, the interviewee, and the music. However, if the producer wishes to use music to establish mood like this, they should play enough of the music to establish that mood (10-20 seconds, tops), and then move on to the meat of the program instead of playing every piece of music in its entirety. Additionally, some of the musical/interview explanations offered by the host are tenuous.

Focus is the big issue here. If the point of the program is to share Clyde's experience, why does seven minutes pass before we hear from him at all? Even when Clyde is heard (in minute seven) the interviewer doesn't introduce him, or share why he's being interviewed. It feels like you are joining a conversation in the middle and it makes the listener feel left on the outside. Further, during the course of the interview, Clyde is not reintroduced in order to catch up any listener who’ve tuned in since the program began.

The interview itself could use some editing--there are too many unnecessary tangents, too much insider laughing, and a general lack of focus to the interview. The discussion does follow a linear time line, but again, without any idea who this is or why the discussion is significant, the content (and meaning) are lost on the listener.

Oddly, the program ends with a fundraising pitch for the host station (complete with phone number).

While this program may work at its home station, this program won't be compatible with the production standards at many other stations.

Broadcast History

To be broadcast Spring 2004 on KSER FM

Transcript

Play: High Flyin? Bird

DC: This is the first of a two-part program with an n outlaw. He, we will call him, Clyde, has spent most of his adult life living at the edges of the American economy as well as several foreign ones. Some of the musicians who help propel this story have lived their lives near the brink of culture. The high flying bird of Richie Havens may explain part of the draw to life on the fringes, yet life can move like an uncontrolled sign wave and in that bottom trough, Kris Kristopherson would like a little help making it through the night.

Play: Help Me Make It Through the Night

DC: What sort of plan did you have when you left school, if you had any?

C: Umm, I, I don?t believe I had any plan (laughs), if I did it was pretty vague (laughs) and changing from day to day (laughs).

DC: Well, what, what happened when, when you left school?

C: Which...
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Musical Works

Title: High Flyin' Bird
Artist: Richie Havens
Album: Mixed Bag
Label: Verve Folkways
Year: 1960's
Length: 3:34

Title: Help Me Make it through the Night
Artist: Kris Kristofferson
Album: Songs of Kristofferson
Label: Columbia
Year: 1977
Length: 2:24

Title: No Man Can Find the War
Artist: Tim Buckley
Album: Goodbye and Hello
Label: Elektra
Year: 1967
Length: 2:58

Title: Meet Me with Your Black Drawers on
Artist: Jeannie and Jimmy Cheatham
Album: Sweet Baby Blues
Label: Concord
Year: 1985
Length: 7:28

Title: Fixin' to Die Rag
Artist: Country Joe and the Fish
Album: I Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die
Label: Vanguard
Year: 1967
Length: 3:09

Title: Babylon Is Fallin' down
Artist: Dan Smith
Album: Good Morning Blues (compilation)
Label: Biograph
Year: 1993/1975
Length:

Title: Shake 'Em on down
Artist: R. L. Burnside
Album: Too Bad Jim
Label: Fat Possum
Year: 1994
Length: 4:48

Title: The Captian
Artist: Leonard Cohen
Album: Various Positions
Label: Columbia
Year: 1984
Length: 4:06

Title: Take This Waltz
Artist: Leonard Cohen
Album: I'm Your Man
Label: Columbia
Year: 1988
Length: 5:54

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