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Zig-Zag and Shilly-Shally (#1268)

Series: A Way with Words
From: A Way with Words
Length: 00:54:00

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Bavarian Chalet. Mushroom Basket. Moose Point. Who in the heck comes up with the names of paint chips, anyway? Must be the same people who get paid to give names like Love Child, Sellout, and Apocalypse to shades of lipstick. Martha and Grant discuss confusing color names. Read the full description.

Spam-prx_square_small Bavarian Chalet. Mushroom Basket. Moose Point. Who in the heck comes up with the names of paint chips, anyway? Must be the same people who get paid to give names like Love Child, Sellout, and Apocalypse to shades of lipstick. Martha and Grant discuss confusing color names.

Hurly-burly, helter-skelter, zigzag, shilly-shally -- the hosts dish out some claptrap about words like these, otherwise known as reduplications or rhyming jingles.

If someone's naked as a needle, just how naked are they? And why "needle"?

Grant and Martha discuss more weird names for lipstick. Mauvelous Memories, anyone?

Quiz Guy John Chaneski's latest puzzle requires players to guess the last word in a two-line verse. For example: "He’s seven feet tall and big as a tank, The meanest Marine that you’ve ever BLANK." (Stumped? Take a letter out of "seven.")

An Episcopal priest in Toledo worries that her sermons are cluttered with dashes. This works just fine when she's preaching, but when the same text appears on her church's website, it looks like a messy tangle of words and punctuation. The hosts discuss the differences between text written for oral delivery, and text written to be read silently.

Why is that annoying stuff in your email box called spam? Grant has the wordy answer. Here's the Monty Python skit that inspired it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE&feature=player_embedded

Can a first-time event ever be called "The First Annual" Such-and-Such? Members of a Cedar Rapids group planning a social mixer disagree.

Is that snazzy new car adorbs or bobo? Grant talks about adorbs, bobo, and a few other slang terms collected by Professor Connie Eble of the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill.

Theories about how Latin Americans came to use the term gringo as a disparaging word for foreigners. We can easily rule out the one about the song "Green Grow the Lilacs," but what about the rest?

An insurance fraud investigator in Milwaukee wonder if he's correct to use a semicolon immediately after the word "however. " Grant suggests that the word and the punctuation mark should do a do-si-do.

Many of us learned the rule about using the preposition between when talking about two items, but  among when talking about more than two. In reality, though, the rule is a little more complicated.

Someone who's extremely busy may be said to be busier than a cranberry merchant. What is it that keeps cranberry merchants so busy, anyway?

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Piece Description

Bavarian Chalet. Mushroom Basket. Moose Point. Who in the heck comes up with the names of paint chips, anyway? Must be the same people who get paid to give names like Love Child, Sellout, and Apocalypse to shades of lipstick. Martha and Grant discuss confusing color names.

Hurly-burly, helter-skelter, zigzag, shilly-shally -- the hosts dish out some claptrap about words like these, otherwise known as reduplications or rhyming jingles.

If someone's naked as a needle, just how naked are they? And why "needle"?

Grant and Martha discuss more weird names for lipstick. Mauvelous Memories, anyone?

Quiz Guy John Chaneski's latest puzzle requires players to guess the last word in a two-line verse. For example: "He’s seven feet tall and big as a tank, The meanest Marine that you’ve ever BLANK." (Stumped? Take a letter out of "seven.")

An Episcopal priest in Toledo worries that her sermons are cluttered with dashes. This works just fine when she's preaching, but when the same text appears on her church's website, it looks like a messy tangle of words and punctuation. The hosts discuss the differences between text written for oral delivery, and text written to be read silently.

Why is that annoying stuff in your email box called spam? Grant has the wordy answer. Here's the Monty Python skit that inspired it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE&feature=player_embedded

Can a first-time event ever be called "The First Annual" Such-and-Such? Members of a Cedar Rapids group planning a social mixer disagree.

Is that snazzy new car adorbs or bobo? Grant talks about adorbs, bobo, and a few other slang terms collected by Professor Connie Eble of the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill.

Theories about how Latin Americans came to use the term gringo as a disparaging word for foreigners. We can easily rule out the one about the song "Green Grow the Lilacs," but what about the rest?

An insurance fraud investigator in Milwaukee wonder if he's correct to use a semicolon immediately after the word "however. " Grant suggests that the word and the punctuation mark should do a do-si-do.

Many of us learned the rule about using the preposition between when talking about two items, but  among when talking about more than two. In reality, though, the rule is a little more complicated.

Someone who's extremely busy may be said to be busier than a cranberry merchant. What is it that keeps cranberry merchants so busy, anyway?

Broadcast History

For broadcast starting Friday, November 26, 2010. This episode first aired October 24, 2009.

Transcript

Bavarian Chalet. Mushroom Basket. Moose Point. Who in the heck comes up with the names of paint chips, anyway? Must be the same people who get paid to give names like Love Child, Sellout, and Apocalypse to shades of lipstick. Martha and Grant discuss confusing color names.

Hurly-burly, helter-skelter, zigzag, shilly-shally -- the hosts dish out some claptrap about words like these, otherwise known as reduplications or rhyming jingles.

If someone's naked as a needle, just how naked are they? And why "needle"?

Grant and Martha discuss more weird names for lipstick. Mauvelous Memories, anyone?

Quiz Guy John Chaneski's latest puzzle requires players to guess the last word in a two-line verse. For example: "He’s seven feet tall and big as a tank, The meanest Marine that you’ve ever BLANK." (Stumped? Take a letter out of "seven.")

An Episcopal priest in Toledo worries that her sermons are...
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Timing and Cues

The show clock:

Billboard: 1:00
Segment 1: 13:00
Music Bed: 1:00
Segment 2: 19:00
Music Bed: 1:00
Segment 3: 19:00
TRT: 54:00

Stations typically take NPR news at the top of the hour and start our
show at :06 with Breaks at :19 and :39 and out at :59.

Here's a typical episode rundown:

--Billboard
--Seg 1
----Intro: 2-3 minutes
----Caller questions: 10-11 minutes
--Break 1:00
--Seg 2
----Word Challenge 4-6 minutes
----Caller questions 13-15 minutes
--Break 1:00
--Seg 3
----Slang Quiz 5-7 minutes
----Caller questions 11-13 minutes
----Credits: 1:00

Intro and Outro

INTRO:

This week on "A Way with Words": Bavarian Chalet. Mushroom Basket. Moose Point. Who in the heck comes up with the names of paint chips, anyway? Martha and Grant ponder that mystery. They also explain why those annoying emails go by the name spam. And Grant explains the difference between being "adorbs" and "bobo."

OUTRO:

Musical Works

Title Artist Album Label Year Length
I Can't Go For That (No Can Do) Hall And Oates The Very Best of Daryl Hall and John Oates. Sony BMG/RCA 00:14
I'm Through With You Galt McDermott Shapes of Rhythm/Woman Is Sweeter. Kilmarnock Records 00:25
Funky Junk Jimmy McGriff Electric Funk. Blue Note 01:00
Underwater Love Smoke City Flying Away. Zomba 00:13
Miss Poopie Jimmy McGriff Electric Funk. Blue Note 01:00
Stand Together Beastie Boys Check Your Head. Capitol 00:17
Let's Call The Whole Thing Off Fred Astaire Fred Astaire's Finest Hour. The Verve Music Group 01:04

Additional Files

Additional Credits

Hosted by Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett. Produced by Stefanie Levine. Engineered and edited by Tim Felten. Production assistance by Josette Herdell and Jennifer Powell. Recorded at Studio West in Rancho Bernardo, California, and at KQED Radio in San Francisco.

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