This is the second segment of Max Jungreis’ interview with the Unabomber’s little brother David Kaczynski. In this piece, the listener hears David reflecting on Ted’s social behavior and his inability to connect with others. The magic of the piece appears during David’s retelling of a childhood story, in which Ted builds a second door handle to help his small three-year-old brother open the backyard door. The story paints a thoughtful, helpful, and determined image of Ted Kaczynski and it is moving in the context of Ted’s actions later in life. I think this story could be edited into its own piece.